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Current votes: None.
At 12:05 +0200 UTC, on 2007-04-06, Alfonso Mart=EDnez de Lizarrondo wrote=
:
> 2007/4/6, Sander Tekelenburg <<mailto:st@isoc.nl>st@isoc.nl>:
[...]
['CSS zapper'
<http://webrepair.org/02strategy/02certification/01requirements.php#req26=
>]
> That idea is basically a way for web authors to override the UA default=
s
>and this way overcome the current differences in those defaults
Right.
>, but in no
>way it does assure that the users will get their expected rendering beca=
use
>the user could have specified a User Stylesheet.
By what logic would a user define User CSS and not expect that to affect=
the
rendering? (And, as I said earlier, a specced default presentation doesn'=
t
give that ensurance either.)
>Having the UA use all of them a common stylesheet will get the same effe=
ct
>that specifying a "CSS zapper", but most important: it will be easier to
>control the rendering if all the behavior is specified in a css file use=
d by
>the browser.
Control by whom? (I ask specifically, because on the WHATWG mailing list =
now
and then people seem to think that control should be moved more from user=
s to
authors, which I thoroughly disagree with.)
Anyway, you seem to be talking here about the problem that some UAs use
styling that cannot be targeted through CSS. As far as I can see that's a
different issue altogether. My initial take on that would be that users c=
an
vote with their wallets.
> What I have in mind right now: trying to style a <br> (br:before {conte=
nt:
>"\B6 ";}) it's impossible for example in Mozilla because it uses some ma=
gic
>in the rendering. If the rendering is only controlled by some CSS rules =
then
>it's possible for a web author to override them
I'd have to think about it some more, but I might well agree with the CSS
spec saying that UAs should privide users with a means to change
presentation. (If it doesn't say so already. I haven't checked.)
>, and having all the UA use
>the same defaults would be a good thing.
I don't see how, from what you said, you reach that conclusion.
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Sander Tekelenburg
The Web Repair Initiative: <http://webrepair.org/>