Re: [whatwg] Video proposals

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Current votes: None.


On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 23:03:43 +0100, H=E5kon Wium Lie <howcome@opera.com> =
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> Due to software patents, MPEG 4 costs money.

I actually know nothing about MPEG4's license, and even if I had it =20
printed out on my desk, I wouldn't probably understand enough of it to =20
make any assumptions or conclusions. As I'm no lawyer, I thus have to ask=
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How much does it cost and for whom? Would both authors and browser vendor=
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have to pay someone something to use MPEG-4, or is it a royalty-free =20
license of sorts, or what?

I think this is very interesting even if I'm not equipped with the lawyer=
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competence required to understand the issues myself.

> Also, it requires more processing power than many devices have.

I believe most video card vendors are working on getting MPEG4 decoding =20
support in their products. Isn't that correct?

> Who will pay for licenses to OLPC's machines?

Good point. It depends on the license, I guess. Does it really cost money=
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for everyone to use, no matter how it's used?

> And, how will the get the power to decode?

It has to be supported in hardware somehow. I also think it's a lot more =
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likely to get hardware decoding support for MPEG4 than it is to get it fo=
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Theora. MPEG4 hardware decoders exists already, but I don't know of any =20
Theora decoders. Do you?

> I think it's vital that we find an open format that the free world can
> use.

MPEG-4 is open per se, but it's not free (as in beer). It's an =20
international standard that unfortunately costs money to implement. Who i=
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costs money for, why, and how much is a very interesting question I'd lik=
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to be answered somehow. If nobody on this list has the answer, I'll try t=
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get them from my friends in NRK who are a bit more updated than me on the=
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subject.

> If MPEG4 is the alternative, we might as well continue using Flash and
> <object>. But it's not a world I want to live in.

Do you really think MPEG4 is that bad? It's at least not proprietary and =
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one-vendor-controlled the way Flash is. That has to count for something, =
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no?

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