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--4SFOXa2GPu3tIq4H Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>, 2008-01-28 18:39 +1100: > On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 10:02:26 +1100, Matthew Paul Thomas <mpt@myrealbox.c= om>=20 > wrote: > [...] > > Since most pages that contain links don't also use accesskey=3D, handset > > vendors should find a way to allow easy navigation of links regardless > > of whether the attribute is present. >=20 > They do. As for example, Opera Mobile provides for each page, from a submenu, a numbered list of all the links on the page. > However, accesskey, which is to primarily designed to give an=20 > increased navigation priority to certain links, I guess that's the key point. Other than accesskey, we have provided no other standard way for authors/content-providers to indicate through markup that kind of navigation priority for selected links. So lacking that, all that a UA could really do is to find all the links on the page and present them to the user in a list of some kind accessible from a submenu or whatever in the browser UI. (I guess it could attempt to implement some mechanism that used heuristics to try to intelligently determine which links are meant to have that navigation priority, but from what I've seen of the existing content that uses accesskey, that mechanism is not likely to be successful very often). > is very useful for handsets,=20 > and not actually very complicated to implement, in a way that is consist= ent=20 > with the existing markup. It might not be the same across all=20 > implementations, but there is very little restriction needed to make an= =20 > implementation compatible with almost any imaginable UI. And in that light -- knowing that some browser vendors will go ahead and implement accesskey regardless (because it's useful and not costly to do so and because the realities of a market they want to sell in demand it), the solution of putting into spec an explicit "UAs must ignore the accesskey=3D attribute" that they are going to necessarily have to ignore really doesn't seem like a practical or productive solution. --Mike --=20 Michael(tm) Smith http://people.w3.org/mike/ http://sideshowbarker.net/ --4SFOXa2GPu3tIq4H Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIIIuQYJKoZIhvcNAQcCoIIIqjCCCKYCAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMAsGCSqGSIb3DQEHAaCC BjAwggLpMIICUqADAgECAhBdFwgAZc4B5Ol2lzmSVl4xMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMGIxCzAJ BgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYD VQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQTAeFw0wODAxMDkwNjA0 NTVaFw0wOTAxMDgwNjA0NTVaMFYxDjAMBgNVBAQTBVNtaXRoMRAwDgYDVQQqEwdNaWNoYWVs MRYwFAYDVQQDEw1NaWNoYWVsIFNtaXRoMRowGAYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFgttaWtlQHczLm9yZzCC ASIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADggEPADCCAQoCggEBANGtwItgkmRxAVKby78mnX9+hFgkHVut tDlWvbhBg3TmGfe74PwfMAuHmhOf/OqqffMr7a4uwfhMUJYo2f05JZPjJdJaIo1sVHtrTDU2 D/g480FzxFEGqAMAYvEniy4vUKDD/HHcZuUtmzDHKoHIWmZu0O9moiEXa4CRrpi23Sdr64Bt KYMUKt+rjdQW999qvPXIM6BeanXKm/3Uh+JMk8czR1wL0qooMMeTAndr1+Z0OrUNjRXSvmTu RARmdHGe9b7bqUblsfEHqr22cK5YMZ5nrfPRITt/RUfg2lSrPKoVmgqZa4qOErFuxS2CQ40b 5XPv7IqylGQL/LUet0iGRgECAwEAAaMoMCYwFgYDVR0RBA8wDYELbWlrZUB3My5vcmcwDAYD VR0TAQH/BAIwADANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOBgQAhVW69qYOxsmrAkY0LdS/MgsvFF+k+t+hE vh3qMUhmJ9yHhKOd+7kQtunbmwGXTAQv8itCvRQQq6rE9tcT0CkaZJeScsvu0soLUt1mmGv6 +CbJUfdah6OQcIqT1LmX+HgJ+pl6HW7+AXDC0jLi2MF7t3THyTMP9JrrhtIzF2T8ADCCAz8w ggKooAMCAQICAQ0wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwgdExCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUwEwYDVQQIEwxX ZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUxEjAQBgNVBAcTCUNhcGUgVG93bjEaMBgGA1UEChMRVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1 bHRpbmcxKDAmBgNVBAsTH0NlcnRpZmljYXRpb24gU2VydmljZXMgRGl2aXNpb24xJDAiBgNV BAMTG1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBDQTErMCkGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYccGVyc29u YWwtZnJlZW1haWxAdGhhd3RlLmNvbTAeFw0wMzA3MTcwMDAwMDBaFw0xMzA3MTYyMzU5NTla MGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQu MSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQTCBnzANBgkq hkiG9w0BAQEFAAOBjQAwgYkCgYEAxKY8VXNV+065yplaHmjAdQRwnd/p/6Me7L3N9VvyGna9 fww6YfK/Uc4B1OVQCjDXAmNaLIkVcI7dyfArhVqqP3FWy688Cwfn8R+RNiQqE88r1fOCdz0D viv+uxg+B79AgAJk16emu59l0cUqVIUPSAR/p7bRPGEEQB5kGXJgt/sCAwEAAaOBlDCBkTAS BgNVHRMBAf8ECDAGAQH/AgEAMEMGA1UdHwQ8MDowOKA2oDSGMmh0dHA6Ly9jcmwudGhhd3Rl LmNvbS9UaGF3dGVQZXJzb25hbEZyZWVtYWlsQ0EuY3JsMAsGA1UdDwQEAwIBBjApBgNVHREE IjAgpB4wHDEaMBgGA1UEAxMRUHJpdmF0ZUxhYmVsMi0xMzgwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQADgYEA SIzRUIPqCy7MDaNmrGcPf6+svsIXoUOWlJ1/TCG4+DYfqi2fNi/A9BxQIJNwPP2t4WFiw9k6 GX6EsZkbAMUaC4J0niVQlGLH2ydxVyWN3amcOY6MIE9lX5Xa9/eH1sYITq726jTlEBpbNU13 41YheILcIRk13iSx0x1G/11fZU8xggJRMIICTQIBATB2MGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYD VQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVy c29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIQXRcIAGXOAeTpdpc5klZeMTAJBgUrDgMCGgUA oIGxMBgGCSqGSIb3DQEJAzELBgkqhkiG9w0BBwEwHAYJKoZIhvcNAQkFMQ8XDTA4MDEyODEy MjI1MVowIwYJKoZIhvcNAQkEMRYEFGDRehw0gUzIKDt7wy2y2yqf2OqEMFIGCSqGSIb3DQEJ DzFFMEMwCgYIKoZIhvcNAwcwDgYIKoZIhvcNAwICAgCAMA0GCCqGSIb3DQMCAgFAMAcGBSsO AwIHMA0GCCqGSIb3DQMCAgEoMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUABIIBAAUoMXwg1nH9e/wO5wzgcEAC Rl0xaEkhSHOWuT+O3iCTgfT4g/hC7uo+GHW7dDA8MhDTHs+OSC+hXV44W2c7gPZdij6mNyrB erWa+PlV9Q7mCuZx3WUrUDfhyDC5R6T/ymtLA0XEsTzPq/8utnsv7rTJJI8LRx/EVLt4r9Tl 7X3OUnmAtbeQwZMXtvpEXI8USB0Li40eVVOfF8XnnEW1O3otKOckAiO3ra99aZHRDgnwPdSq bmkMwryUCZdZCdHoopeq0U92ZblzmVNNHeKW9tkYh3RhsrE4zplQSHt983XfnGu4ju1FNMWX xM/nDBqkbJRac/8fKTw/vo1toNA9mrU= --4SFOXa2GPu3tIq4H--